In this episode MC Laubscher from South Africa explains how his foundation is centered around the infinite banking concept. He tells us where his passive income is coming from, and talks about some investments he is trying to turn into passive income. Laubscher will walk you through his journey of how he purchased his first single family property out of university in South Africa, and how he got to where he is now.
Topics that are covered in this episode:
Uses infinite banking to create cashflow and make investments
Purchased first property in South Africa in 2001
USA leads in creative deals
Started with an informal mentorship for them
Infinite banking is what wealth Family Offices use
Sick, alone, broke in 2011 – the person that is responsible is you
Get up in the morning and start moving
What you value is not what someone else values
Is this your highest and best value… if not table it or have someone else do it
Document the processes to outcource things
A home gym would cut down on time traveling
I am not entitled to anything
Figure out what takes your time and write down a process to outsource
Email Lane if you have questions about infinite banking
Self reflect and figuring out what you are good at
Chris Rush shares his success story of how he went on to becoming a Navy Pilot, and a multi-family home investor. Chris talks about how the analogy “burn the boats” relates to his real estate philosophy and he shares his struggles, his experience and his successes. Here are some of the topics we discuss in this episode:
Topics that are covered in this episode:
Chris Rush is a seasoned real estate investor, serial entrepreneur and founder of Sidereal Management, Inc.
Chris started his real estate career in the family business as a teenager in the 1980’s. He has extensive experience in property valuation and acquisition; multiple, simultaneous capital expenditure real estate rehab projects; property leasing and management; financing and refinancing; syndication, fundraising and financial selling; and marketing and property sales.
Over the past decade through syndication, partnership and individual investments, Chris has acquired, repositioned and deposed of for profit over 1000 units in the Texas, Georgia, New Mexico, Arkansas and Washington markets.
As a syndicator with Fannie Mae loan experience, Chris has an top-notch reputation among the multi-family investment community. He provides exceptional value to investors and the community.
Chris is a 1995 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, Computer Science, B.S. He served 10 years on active duty excelling as a Navy pilot flying missions worldwide.
Up to this point, my life has followed a steady, linear trajectory. But today… I took my own advise that time is your most important asset and I am happy to announce that I am speaking to you from Honolulu, Hawaii the new home base of Simple Passive Cashflow!
As a teenager growing up on a small island in the middle of the Pacific, I was programmed to go to college on the mainland because the cost of living in Hawaii was too high and jobs compensation was pretty poor. With the cost of living in Hawaii being 10% more than Seattle or San Francisco and 20% less pay for equivalent jobs, living a comfortable life is no easy feat. I resolved to never return unless I was extremely well off financially – although I am not where I want to be – I have the knowledge and network to get me where I need in the next few years.
Looking back on my path as a wide-eyed college student living away from my family for the first time in Seattle. And then started my Engineering career working for blood money for my first employer. I am a little dumbfounded how all that work through the traditional educational system only prepared me for a life as a worker-bee to save more and hopefully have enough after I gave away all that time during a 40 year career. I do look back with gratitude since it gave me the means to save up for down payments and truly savour freedom when I achieve it.
I wanted to inspire others to “Burn The Boats”… to do what you want, where you want, and with whom you want – whether its buying that first rental, quitting a crappy job, getting away from a bad boss, starting a family, or just telling your mother in law to shut up.
Here are the 10 main reasons for my return to Hawaii and I hope you can find similarities to your journey:
1) It’s a seller’s market.
2) I don’t see many deals out in the market worthy of investing in. In fact, I can’t find many that will make money. I don’t believe in rent trends continuing upward. In my mind, that’s called speculation.
3) Hawaii is a great place to hide out and chill. Knowing when to “hold’em” and when to “fold’em” is half the battle.
4) Environment matters. I used to live in a really affluent area in Kirkland and my Mercedes is seriously the crappiest car on the block. Homes are filled with babysitters watching kids as their parents play Bejewelled on their I-Phones. I just don’t feel like I fit in. Seattle also gets dark at 3:30 PM in the Seattle winter and I dislike being cold all of the time. Talk about Kurt Cobain! Shoot yourself in the head!
5) Embrace minimalism. My homeboy FI Fighter took the path of Extreme Financial Independence to race to a point where his income exceeded his expenses. At that point the plan is to escape the rat race which not only includes your job but the environment that contributes to lifestyle creep. On paper, Hawaii is one of the if not most expensive States to live in as evident with the median home costs of $800,000 and 8 dollar gallon of milk. The truth is in order to survive, Hawaii’s locals have to live frugally, in multiple generational households, and the housing stock/amenities is much lower quality (B tenant lives in a C building by US Mainland standards)… it’s the price of paradise. From time to time we need to get back to basics and keep it simple.
6) A unique opportunity. One of my main goals is to create an investor network in Hawaii. People in Hawaii are very fiscally conservative and there is a lot of generational wealth passed on to younger generations. This creates a complex problem for people who have money and “don’t know how to fish.” My hope is to leverage the talents of others to create a non-profit financial education group based on the philanthropy of those who I will liberate from the rat race and will in turn help mentor others in basic personal financial education such as keeping a budget. If you are interested please reach out to me. The best companies are built on the foundations of culture and this is something I know everyone that comes to this website strongly believes in.
7) Technology bridges oceans. Some will say that I need to be close to the action, but I feel technology allows me to be everywhere at once. I travel to Texas and Atlanta a lot and they are major airport hubs which offer direct flights to HNL. I am also a cheap ass (which I am working to change :p), so I take the red-eye to avoid paying for a hotel that day. My situation will actually improve since instead of a 4 hour flight from Seattle to Texas, I now have a full 7 hour shut-eye flight from HNL to DFW.
8) Serve the people of Hawaii. You might be asking why am I still working? Check out this previous talk I gave explaining why you should not quit your job. I’ll be honest although, I work a few hours a day and times on the weekend on building SPC and my multi-family syndications I don’t have enough work to keep my busy all the time. I recently interviewed for a job and I told them that I was looking to work for good people who treated me fairly and with respect. For the past few years I only worked for non-private entities because I thought that they are one of those busy days at work… my efforts benefit at least the people and not a corporate entity. And now it’s great that my work benefits the place I grew up. But don’t get me wrong here… I still don’t really enjoy the work I do and it is not Ikigai or the alignment for four items: 1) What you are good at, 2) What you Love, 3) What the world needs, 4) What you can be paid for.
9) Passion+Lifestyle=Happiness. Tom Corley (from Rich Habits) identifies 2 ways self-made millionaires rose from poverty or the middle-class. Either you live below your means and wisely invest your savings or you pursue something you are passionate about. I am achieving the best of both worlds. Yes, Hawaii is more expensive on paper, but it is easier to live a simple life and not get caught up in the perpetual pissing contest that many working professionals subconsciously partake in.
10) Retirement is a state of being. People wear Hawaiian Shirts on a vacation to feel relaxed. Why not make everyday like that? I am nowhere where I want to be but on my way. With a little Shave Ice too. I want my everyday life to feel like an indefinite vacation. #LuckyYouLiveHawaii
Live in the moment. Life is short… pull your head out off your butt before the years fly by. Don’t you see those Facebook memories posts and think where did the years go? The day is long and the years are short. Get up get out and get some. WUKAR! Lanikai Sunrise 😁 Check out the youTube Channel.
This is the first property in a series (1 out of 9) of acquisitions that resulted from a couple 1031 exchanges. If this is your first time reading this post I suggest you read these few prefaces first.
This property was put into service in October of 2015 (I know a little behind but I’ll catch up in the next few months). I acquired the property from a marketer that makes connections with the rehabbers in certain markets and finds buyers such as myself who are typically located in low rent to value ratio locations (this does not necessarily mean high-priced locations) such as California, New York, Hawaii, Seattle, Portland, and basically the coastal areas where all the cool kids what to actually live. Marketers have their place if the buyer is totally clueless but once you purchase a few of these properties the marketer really does not offer much value. The only thing I see that they would offer would be someone to be the bad guy role in a negotiation but many of the marketers are buddy-buddy with the rehabber because of their business relationship and won’t stick their neck out for you. As the buyer, you need to take ownership of the due-diligence process and negotiations because that marketer is not a licensed agent and does not have a fiduciary responsibility to you.
Check out my previous post for a bit more context. My goal was straight cashflow so Memphis and Birmingham were at the top of my list as opposed to Atlanta/Texas which seemed to trade off some cashflow buffer for appreciation potential. I was comfortable going with a seemingly grungier city because I was going for cashflow (rent/value). A wise mentor of mine told me once “the security of your investment in a market correction is how much cashflow/buffer there is from between your rent minus expenses… when bad times come, how much can you lower the rent to ride out the bad times.” I think most people get wrapped around in analysis paralysis over the plethora of data such as crime stats, employment trends, population trends, etc. Those indicators tell part of the story but for me the reason I moved forward was just talking to a couple of people who were (not referral based salesmen) investors with disinterested agendas that said “dude, just buy it (from the right people), it just works”. If you have ever heard the saying “stand on the shoulders of giants” that’s what I did – if it worked for these other investors then I’m just going to start where they left off – after all every month I delayed action I lost a potential $200-300 of cashflow. In the end, maybe it’s just because of my personality, I chose Birmingham because I heard so many podcast ads for Memphis and saw all the investors going there.
I apologize, it has been so long that it’s hard to remember (again I will get better at this, scouts honor), but I can’t really remember much because there were really no huge exceptions in the due-diligence process. I did a 3rd party inspector that I got off a referral from other investors. Remember do not take a referral from anyone on the sellers side as that is a huge red flag for their integrity due to the conflict of interest. A big difference in my growth as an investor is running these processes together with the lender’s parallel process and being able to effectively negotiate additional renovations or contract terms. Looking back I probably over paid a few thousand at least more than I would have today with my experience because you just can’t read about this stuff. Also it’s worth noting that you always should connect with a few property management companies and interview them early in this period. In addition, use them to validate your rental numbers and property location.
I paid cash for the property initially because it was the sellers terms. I would never it do it again this way since I basically waived my right to a property appraisal. The next step was to refinance the property with a convention Fannie Mae mortgage to pull out most of my initial investment. We had a lot of trouble getting the property to appraise for the value due to the technical processes of the appraisers. Finally, after the third try I finally got an appraisal number that I was able to live with, but the damage had been done and I had to have all my cash tied up in the deal for 2-3 months. Lesson learned was to always have a financing/appraisal contingency to ensure that the property that you buy appraises and that what you pay is what it is worth. This is another example of a standing on the shoulder of giants, when you are financing from day 1 the bank owns 75-80% of the home via the mortgage and they are doing their due diligence too via the title work and appraisal. Therefore use the banks process as your friend. I got a lot of help from my lender in this transaction as they were the ones behind the scenes working the appraisal issue. This the difference between going with any big bank lender and a lender that works exclusively with investors. Again the golden rule is to always go by referral by another investor.
After the smoke cleared I was out of pocket $27K and had a $50k mortgage. The interest rate was a little under 5% but that does not matter. Sophisticated investors do not look at interest rate and the amount of debt instead they focus on cashflow and effect on net worth because after all who cares if your interest rate is 8% if the deal is returning 20-40%.
After all the closing issues got taken care of everything else went pretty smooth and the property got filled by a nice family. Here are the numbers:
5 Rooms/3 Bed/1Bath, 1 story, 1008 SF
The Story: A nice suburban home in the Center Point area. The property was picked up as a distressed seller and rehabbed
$875 Rent per month
– 10% Property management
– In the first 18 months I have less than 400 dollars of repairs total
– $395 Mortgage/Interest/Insurance/Taxes (PITI)
I typically get $300-400 per month after expenses. Please note: Make sure you are saving 30-50% at least in reserves for cap ex, expenses, repairs, vacancy. I have had good luck these first 18 months however the law of averages will catch up.
Knock on wood – it really does not get any better than this property because in the first 18 months of ownership I have experienced no vacancy and only $300 of repairs. 🙂 So yea things are pretty boring on this one.
Fannie Mae/Freddie Mae Loans currently at 10 loans or 10 golden tickets
Some Credit Unions have portfolio loans but its all going back to the Government
As of 4/2017 – 0 to 6 rentals is in one book (guidelines) 7-10 is in the other book
1) Credit Score – 720 or greater in spots 7-10
2) Assets – Liquid and Non-Liquid for downpayment (must be sourced and seasoned 2-months liquid) and cash reserves needs 1-6 liquid or non liquid for subject property needs to show 6 months PITI plus 2 months for each other property in addition. For property 7-10 you need 6 months PITI for all properties
3) Dept to Income (DTI) – 50%
We get to use 75% of the supposed rents as income in DTI
LOE – Letter of Explanation
30 day rate lock
Timing the appraisal
“My wife is officially is quitting her job at the end of this year. Thanks for helping us be able to do that. One of her friends had to go back to work 10-weeks after having their second kid because they need her income to pay the mortgage. It makes me cringe just thinking about that.” –Hui Deal Pipeline Club Member
****UPDATED 2/2018 w/ Quick Start List!!!****
Welcome if you are new! And welcome back… here is what I have been working on…
1 ) Just closed my second syndication in my own name. If you want access to these opportunities they are only available to folks with a pre-existing relationship. So sign up for my Hui Deal Pipeline Club and setup a time to chat.
Hui Deal Pipe Club acquisition stats (Estate-2016)- Acquired over $55M dollars of total real estate and $5 million dollars of funds raised.
4) Analyzing just 5 MFH deals a month for my own deals (quality over quality). Finding another deal I can partner with.
Goal: Turn “C” and “B” class properties, 60-300 units (stabilized with value-add opportunity) with at least 75% LTV/25 year amortization. We plan to hold 3-6 years and sell when we have doubled our investors’ money. Utilize Non-Recourse debt for extra security.
Seeking MFH at least 60 – 250 units.
1. Value-add component: typically 85-90% occupancy for non-recourse loan & discount based on condition or motivated seller
2. Price: $1,500,000 – $9,000,000, per unit cost under $55K.
3. Location: secondary and tertiary markets across
4. Class: D/C/B Property in a B/A neighborhood
Current holdings as of co-owner of MFPE Investments LLC (1200+ units in OK, LA, IA, TX, and WA).
“I read a book called, “The Millionaire Next Door” and it explained why my pain points were motivating for me, and how I channeled that frustration into something productive…the desire to make my family proud and ‘come up’ in life and pull my family into a better socioeconomic situation, and to ‘have what others have but i never could’ but somewhere along the way, I learned quickly that the ‘having of stuff’ is not what brings happiness so I dont pursue the shiniest of immaterial things… just the MED…. minimum effective dose of what I truly want which is surround myself with a few quality people and necessary things to subsist on than a bunch of trendy new things and fads that will fall off eventually” . –Hui Deal Pipeline Club Member
Networking with other Buy-Hold investors I discovered two things:
1) Passive investors are hard to spot out among the typically ‘active’ RE crowd, therefore trading best practices was very difficult and
2) Passive investing is often boring since this is not a get rich quick method of building wealth and uneventful (if things are going well there aren’t too many cool stories).
This podcast and blog are meant to distill content just to the golden nuggets for the passive Real Estate Investor. I plan to go beyond the newbie tips that clutter the internet and cocktail parties because lets’ face it, as a passive investor your time should be spent on things that you love to do and those who are important to you (not trolling real estate internet forums or making makeshift plumbing repairs on your property).
As I get more experienced, I recognize that there are a lot quicker ways to make a lot of money in Real Estate such as apartment investing, flipping high-end properties, or development but for the time being I have a full-time job that is alright and until that changes this is the path that I have zeroed in on. So if you are like me, join me on this train and if you don’t like your job and want to quit you can get on board too we will wake you up when it’s your time to escape the rat-race.
Real Estate has empowered me financially I wanted to give back to the investor community.
My Motivation For Creating this Site:
1) Begin with the end in mind and decide now what you want your obituary to read. We are only here on this earth for a finite period. I like this picture because this is what will probably be on the welcome table at my funeral. I hope you can make it! Rich Cohen wrote that there are four rungs of being remembered after death: “newly dead; dead but remembered; dead and all those who knew you dead; dead and all those who knew those who knew you dead.” In terms of YOU…All that matters is what happens when you’re alive. Your legacy will offer you no pleasure after you’ve passed so live how you dream but know that there are some unconventional paths that you have to take (like buying cashflowing rentals not in your home state). And for myself…fame will do you no favors for me once I die but at least people can use SimplePassiveCashflow.com to get out of the rat race. And if that does not get your going listen to the wisdom of Frank Ostaseski.
2) Create a repository of information where my unborn children or others can reference with some context into what I was thinking. Similar to Seattle Seahawk, Marshawn Lynch’s “Beast-Mode”, I have tried to live my life in “Legacy-Mode”. And I really want to have a real book!
Why a Podcast?
I jumped on the podcast ban-wagon in 2007 while I was working on the road when I did not have a friend near me. It got me into Crossfit in 2008, Paleo in 2009, Real estate investing in 2010, intermittent fasting in 2013, internet marketing in 2015, and led to meeting and creating friendships with a lot of you because we are aligned on the same wavelength. Yes… The phrase “we met on the internet” is totally acceptable! Obviously, a few of these interests have come and gone but in the macro sense, podcasts have instilled a lifelong interest and ability to learn.
When you ask a kindergartner how do you make money? Why don’t they say “invest in cashflowing real estate?” Because their parents don’t have a clue!
3) While I am alive I want to teach/empower others to fish for themselves. In real estate, we use leverage and by teaching others, I am leveraging other people to achieve their financial goals in hopes that they will pay it forward. I poke fun at MLMs a lot but I would like to create a pyramid scheme of philanthropy.
What is the change that you want to make in the world even if its a 1% move in the needle? Financial education – people have such struggle so much to make ends meet.
I was baptized on Easter 2016 and searched for a way to give back. I want to help others but I struggle with giving money away because I know I can grow my money much faster and I am much more frugal than any philanthropic organization. Bill Gates gave back only after he amassed a fortune. Tithing as you go along has a smaller cumulative impact. My end game is to give away my wealth to rightful causes via a Charitable Remainder Trust.
4) I hope my blog/podcast will help families realize the powerful wealth-building effects of real estate so they can spend their time on more important, instead of working long hours and worrying about their financial troubles. There are a lot of successful families with good jobs (teachers/engineers/programmers/finance) yet they struggle to make ends meet financially. It is their kiddos who ultimately get the short end of the stick. (Cool graphs on this subject) Being a Latch-Key Child growing up, both my parents had to work and I was left home alone after school to fiddle with my thumbs.
With Real Estate you are able to grow your wealth exponentially faster than the conventional 401K’s and stock investing, therefore you are able to escape the dogma of working 50+ hour weeks at a job that is unfulfilling. And if you are one of the lucky ones who happen to do what you enjoy… well good for you 😛
As a great time in history to be alive with general peace and technological convinced, I see a silent war being waged upon the shrinking Middle Class. This is the Civil Rights movement of my time. In a way, people are having a Stockholm Syndrome with Wall Street profiteers being the captors. Let’s work together to redirect money from the Wall-Street casinos and corrupt financial institutions…To help the endangered ‘Middle Class’ savers find safer, more profitable investments in Main Street opportunities benefiting local communities.
Why this podcast/website/syndicating deals is the perfect storm:
Self-awareness is truly the most important aspect of being an investor/entrepreneur. My job being a syndicator is to find opportunities and lead other investors like you to them and using my podcast and experience makes this a logical step for me. I always encourage folks to find out what their competitive advantages and disadvantages are. I can usually help point people in the right direction in a 15-minute free chat – Click here to schedule.
By doing the podcast I found that there was a lot of things and people that I did not know. As Robert Half says, “When one teaches, two learn.”
What are my downfalls?
Being an engineer and introvert communicating was something I was never good at. However, I think I get it after hearing these “straight from the 1990’s salesmen.” I don’t like to waste people’s time, no tricks, no games, the deals should sell themselves.
What is my competitive advantage?
1) I don’t have kids. After learning about hundreds of listens situations via free calls I hear that this sorta complicates things… 😛
2) I am an ISTJ (introversion, sensing, thinking, judgment abbreviation used in the publications of the Myers–Briggs Type Indicator). I don’t really know what the last three manifest in my life but I am a recovering introvert – a side hobby is this group I started to help others get out of their shell. I believe an introvert has nothing to do if you like people or if you are loud and annoying. Your affinity is determined where you derive your energy. Going to the day job and working with you know “others” was really tiring for me. The weirdest thing is that when I talk to others over the phone or in-person I get so excited and sometimes a little too passionate. That’s how I knew I was on to something. I’ll say it many times but what really fires me up is redirecting money from the Wall-Street casinos and corrupt financial institutions…To help the endangered ‘Middle Class’ savers find safer, more profitable investments in Main Street opportunities benefiting local communities. And it would be awesome to help out people in Hawaii where I now live where so many struggles with finances. I’m not looking to change the world just a portion of it.
3) I do recognize that there are seasons in life and right now I am accelerating my syndication business along with my own investments via my Hui Deal Pipeline Club. Sign up here.
Right now my goal is to get to $10-15k per month of passive cashflow as fast as I can. Once I get there, I plan to put things into cruise control. Sophisticated investors call this going from the “growth stage” to hitting “critical mass”. At that point, I will continue to help others get where they want to be via my syndication business which creates good options for passive investors with so little time on their hands. I trust that at this point deals and opportunities will fall into my lap and the Hui.
4) Some people say they work smart. Bust guess what? I work smart and work hard (2-4 hours every day after I get home from the day job). Right now I am working at a pretty unsustainable pace but I am motivated by being so close to activating cruise control.
5) I don’t think binary. I see the world as shades of grey and zero-sum trade-offs when win-win deals can’t be made. I am able to evaluate deals analytically and make holistic decisions. I seem like a machine sometimes but don’t act like one 😉 Robert Kiyosaki says “there are always three sides to a coin.”
6) Integrity – Through these podcast interviews, I had the idea beat into my head not to chase money. I did it in my W2 career in construction management trading money for a poor quality of life working in something I did not like with people who were jerks. Being a younger investor, I realized that was going to hit “zero-gravity” or financial freedom well before my 40s. And then what the heck would I do??? I plan on doing this for a while… at least a few market cycles. I always wanted to act with my investors best interests in mind. The last thing I want to do is not act ethically and have someone put a hit on me as I check my mail at my PO Box.
“I started the Hui Deal Pipeline Club because I want to see each of you get to your goals financially so you can focus on what is really important to you. There are other fundraisers out there that will train their investors down to 10-15% IRRs on crappy deals and do “deals to do deals” or to pick up acquisition fees. Between investing alongside you folks and wanted to grow my track record the right way with the best product I know you guys will keep coming back and bring your friends.”
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“I started the Hui Deal Pipeline Club because I want to see each of you get to your goals financially so you can focus on what is really important to you. There are other fundraisers out there that will train their investors down to 10-15% IRRs on crappy deals and do “deals to do deals” or to pick up acquisition fees. Between investing alongside you folks and wanted to grow my track record the right way with the best product I know you guys will keep coming back and bring your friends.
SimplePassiveCashflow.com is for working professionals who are looking for diversification and better returns outside of traditional investments such as mutual funds and stocks. The Hui Deal Pipeline Club is a free investor club where I filter investments and underwrite the numbers and partners myself. Unlike other investor lists and groups, my investors have personal access to me and know that I personally have skin in the game investing alongside with my investors.
Let’s work together to redirect money from the Wall-Street casinos and corrupt financial institutions…To help the endangered ‘Middle Class’ savers find safer, more profitable investments in Main Street opportunities benefiting local communities.”