From Mastermind memberWhat is LTV? Loan to value. So if your home is worth $100,000 and you have $50,000 left on your mortgage then your LTV is 50%. I’m confused… this all sounds great but just tell me what to do Option 1: Initiate a HELOC with Aloha Pacific CU for 1yr @ 0.5%. Then either go with ASB or CPB. They both will cover up to $500 for early termination with Aloha Pacific (which would be some of the closing costs that were waived) and no annual fee. For ASB, as long as you have $2500/month in direct deposits then there are no other fees – setup an automatic transaction from another bank recurring every month to take care of that, extra credit if you send that same $2,000 right back a few days later (that’s almost like money laundering). At the time of origination, can check rates to see if you go with another 1 yr (with ASB) or 2yr (with CPB). If you need to do a third time – a few years out, then go with whichever one you didn’t go with for the second HELOC. These rates change and so do the fee structures so try to learn this stuff and connect with other investors. A good way to do that is come to have a beer with other sophisticated investors at ReiAloha. Notice CPB is put in the 2nd order because they will waive the cancellation fees from the host bank prior. Yes, we thought this out like the Sunday arm chair quarterback strategies-out the running back rotation of the Denver Broncos. Option 2 (for the lazy): Although this is not optimizing the rates this method is a little simpler if your time is so valuable like you are coming up with the cure to some rare form of cancer. Take the lowest of the 2-3 year HELOCs and just go with them. This minimizes movement and makes your life simpler. Perhaps it makes your life so simpler that you free up time and mental bandwidth to invest in real assets such as rental real estate or passive syndications? I’m still confused… walk me through a real-life example Someone who just did this with a credit union… for a $200k loan, the closing cost was about $1200 (which were covered by the cu) and he paid $700 for an appraisal. He intends to hold for 3 yrs, so he didn’t get much details on how much of the closing costs he would have to pay back…. for this scenario, we estimate that all $1200 and would have to be paid (which $500 of that would be covered by the new lender). Thoughts about appraisals In order to cut costs some banks will do a desk review to determine the value of your property. This usually is more conservative figure and hurts you because you want your home to appraise for the most that it can in order to qualify for the biggest loan. These desk reviews utilize the tax assessed value which usually lower than if you paid $500 for a real appraisal or a cheaper “drive-by” appraisal. Sometimes it might be worth it to pay the extra fees to get a real appraisal instead of the lazy man method. It might be obvious but have a conversation on which appraisal is being used or be disappointed like when Coke switched your C&H sugar for corn syrup. What about for a high leverage option (above 80%+) and low leverage option or will all of them not touch higher than 80%? Higher leverage HELOC are available but not openly published. The author of this guide did not want to waste their time finding such fringe data since it changes so much and did not want to wait of a consultation from another bank employee. The collaborator did note that Hawaii State FCU was one of the few Credit Unions that openly published a higher LTV (up to 95%). Note – Hawaii banks are much more conservative on appraisals and terms than on the mainland. You may want to have a bank on the mainland if they will give a HELOC out of state. Typically anyone can get into most Credit Union after all they just want your money to sit in their bank paying you 0.01%. Sometimes you just have to donate $10 to some friends of the library account to gain membership. Thoughts about fees Be cognizant of closing costs are. The credit unions don’t have an early termination fee, however, you got to pay back closing costs. For the banks, there is a $500 termination fee and rates are higher, but maybe a better route if you got to pay back waived closing costs with the credit unions… especially since ASB and CPB will cover up to $500 early termination. Why are you doing this? Equity in your home is lazy money. It is not yielding a return and in fact it is a liability for lawsuits. The wealthy try to control everything and own nothing (encumber their assets with debt). In addition, typical investment yields range from 12-25% for stable, cashflowing assets, that hold their value even if the economy weakens. Fine tuning: “At some point you are going to ask the following: Assuming the delta between the one and two year helot is 1% and we are talking about a 200k loan… That’s 2k. Is it worth it to run around one afternoon and move stuff around online??? Are you going with the one year one first then get the two year from the next one? At this point it may make sense to get on a coaching call for 30 minutes to get an expert opinion. Also it is possible to get a HELOC on a non-owner occupied home (rental property) but if you are considering so read this… simplepassivecashflow.com/roe” Conclusion Overall the process is pretty painless. You might have to run around looking for your mortgage files, HOA documents, or insurance but once setup it works just like another checking account. Download link
Flip the Script on the BanksSummary: Pay a 30-year mortgage in 5 to 8 years by paying back your mortgage with simple interest instead of amortized interest. I recently discussed this in my Forbes article here. Is this something new? We all know it’s a sellers’ market, with the lack of deals out there and the majority of the Simple Passive Cashflow Podcast listeners looking for something to invest their cash in. Good times, if you ask me. This strategy is nothing new but now the strategies that are, “trending,” like bell bottoms, tights, and neon colors but forgotten. One of these old plays from the playbook is called the Mortgage Equity Arbitrage Strategy also known as, the Australian Banking system. First off, let’s talk about good debt versus bad debt. Obviously, an 18% interest rate paid on something like a credit card is bad debt. But taking a 4% HELOC (Home Equity Line of Credit) or loan from your life insurance policy can be good debt. Especially, if you are putting the loan proceeds into AHP at 12%, a MFH Syndication at 20%, a Turnkey rental at 30%+, or another higher risk syndication at 35%+. Just don’t buy jet skis or other doodads with the money… I don’t know why it’s always jet skis as the example. Maybe something to do with the fact that it is a mini-boat, and boats are known as the worse purchase known to man. What you do with the liquidity from the debt is what really matters. Traditionally, it has been good to go into debt for a college education paying 4-8%… unless you are getting a glass blowing degree… or maybe a psychology degree so you can trick yourself into thinking college was worth it… or Asian studies degree because you are going to have to get used to ramen noodles in your adult life… or a Communications degree to be able to spin your financial reality. Ok I admit, I had a pretty depressing college experience… Other Resources: Additional reading… Webinar – Hui Webinar – How to pay your 30-year mortgage in 4 to 8 years with Mortgage Rate Arbitrage – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysbua0nOaM&t SPC105 – Jordan Goodman – Affiliate connections + mortgage rate optimization + Dolphin mentality – https://simplepassivecashflow.com/podcast-105-jordan-goodman-affiliate-connections-mortgage-rate-optimization-dolphin-mentality/ Here is the download link for Jordan’s text on the mortgage rate optimization strategy: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XajKX3Otl9egfIbTnPBsr49wf7pDZHsO
Helocs hurt your credit score… However if you are a Passive Investor not needing to qualify for PITA rentals, already a home (no need to qualify for a mortgage for some time), or have ample income to support a car loan… it might make sense to run the HELOC hot for a minor credit score hit (25-100 pts). Most personal finance will say absolutely say not to hurt your credit score but in our world this decision is very personal and where the investor needs to empower themself (get around the right people) to choose the right set of options moving forward.